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I received this notification from Ellen Brown on June 10, in reference to her latest article, California’s top two primary eliminates third-party rivals.

Thanks very much for your support in my race for California state treasurer! I lost but did pretty well overall, getting more votes than any other third party or independent candidate for state office. Laura Wells did well too, also running on a state bank platform; see link. I’ll keep pushing for a state bank. There have been some promising developments.

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Today is the day for deciding who will become California’s next Treasurer, and monetary reformer and author, Ellen Brown, whom I have interviewed twice, is a candidate in the election.

Vote if you’re in California and still have time!

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Here is a summary I prepared of Stephan Kinsella’s April 27, 2014 non-debate with Jan Helfeld on minarchism vs. anarchy.

I have preserved the foul language that Kinsella used, to get a full picture of his anger issues and irrationality about a topic that demands rationality.

10m – Ad hominem by Kinsella, refers to “God damn Randian state”
14m – Helfeld Disputes that state is a criminal organization
– Mentions necessity of gang warfare under anarchism – Kinsella gets annoyed
15m – Kinsella’s rude, saying “you’re reading something?”
17m – Domestic and foreign criminals checked by power of state
– Kinsella interrupts again, Jan gets mad, Kinsella says “Jesus Christ”
18m – Gang warfare in every city
19m – Town receiving an extortion letter
21m – Disagreements over punishments
– Kinsella interrupts again, saying his time should be up
23m – Helfeld says he doesn’t want to follow rules, like most anarchists
– Feuds and vendettas
– What happens if you can’t trust contracts will be enforced?
24m – Kinsella interrupts again
26m – Gets annoyed again when asks Helfeld two questions, does the state commit aggression, and is it justified?
27m – Kinsella said “Fuck the format”
– No aggression when people agree to have a govt to protect their rights
29m – Helfeld said everyone is born into a system, with govt or not – says implied contract
30m – Helfeld claims he’s not a statist, Kinsella says he is
33m – Slavery in constitution
34m – Kinsella says “fuck the judge” to Helfeld saying don’t tell the judge he’s against govt
35m – U.S. showed benefit of limited govt
36m – Kinsella says this is ridiculous, re: each asking 12 questions of each other
37m – Says as an anarchist, that’s “bullshit”
38m – Kinsella says it’s irrelevant what Jan thinks now, saying “be a big boy”
– Says he can’t be civilized with this guy
– Saying interrupting is less than taxing — saying Jan is a statist
39m – Jan called Molyneux mollynukes
40m – Kinsella arrogant in responding to no, that it’s not ok to initiate force
41m – Asked is it ok to take water from someone by force — Kinsella asked, “what’s the relevance of the question?”
– Said it’s a “bullshit question”
42m – Kinsella says he doesn’t know what to do
43m – Jan says that he doesn’t realize that under duress, he can violate rights
44m – Ad hominem calling Jan “a washed up lawyer”
– Called him a loser, saying he doesn’t even pronounce ad hominem properly
45m – Called him a “craven coward defender of the state,” saying he’s raising certain issues in order to justify the state
47m – Helfeld said Larken Rose said, in a debate, that he would die in that situation [drowning and if someone in a boat next to him wouldn't let him on]
– Said he might have been one of the few who would, whereas most who say they would do so, wouldn’t
48m – Kinsella said “Fuck no,” re: Jan’s behaviour
49m – Says “it’s disagreeable to tax by you motherfuckers,” to Jan
– Said “you are nothing”, being a statist
50m – Kinsella said to the moderator before that he had previously been a minarchist and a Randian
51m – Kinsella said to Jan, “you better think it through, motherfucker”
52m – Jan laughing
53m – Jan says there are two cases — if dispute resolution groups have nukes, or not, asking what would you do if Putin has nukes
57m – Jan says he would violate rights to save his life if he had to hang onto a boat
1h5m – Kinsella says non-aggression principle should be a model for laws in a society
– Says he doesn’t know if he would steal to survive
1h7m – Kinsella said statist libertarians are old wave, and he can’t wait for them to die out
1h8m – Kinsella called the Founding Fathers racist, bigoted slave owners
1h15m – Funny echo on Jan’s side
1h16m – Kinsella says he’s not opposed to govt, he’s opposed to the state
1h19m – Will criminal gangs attack others they perceive as weaker
1h21m – Kinsella says he no longer has any interest in talking
1h23m – Kinsella said “you’re idiots”
1h24m – Helfeld said this system is better than gang warfare
1h26m – Helfeld says he doesn’t support taxation for redistribution of wealth, and Kinsella says “they take my taxes every April 16th, motherfucker”
1h27m – Kinsella said he’s probably paid more in taxes in one year than Helfeld has in his entire life
1h28m – Kinsella calls Jan a fake, fraud and liar
1h30m – Kinsella said Jan is welcome to his opinion and “to shut the fuck up for a second”
1h31m – Called Jan his enemy
1h33m – Called Jan a “washed up loser”
– Said “Fuck off, bye”

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From this February 23, 2010 Daily Bell interview with Lew Rockwell, he said:

Daily Bell: Is it reasonable to believe that the state will ever wither away or does reality instruct us that the best that can be done is to limit its power?

Rockwell: To me, that’s like asking if we can imagine a society without robberies and murders. Maybe it won’t ever happen, but we must have the ideal in mind or else we’ll never get closer to it. Without the ideal, progress stops. To some extent, then, whether reality will finally ever conform is not the critical question. What counts is that what we imagine can and should exist. I like to imagine a society without legally sanctioned aggression against person and property.

For more on Lew Rockwell, see my article, 10 questions for Lew Rockwell.

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Alex Jones posted a video on February 7, 2014, entitled “Alex Jones: A Real Banking Solution”

In it, he endorses state banking (at 4:00).

However, he muddles his message, as he first starts talking about the completely unrelated matter of Bill Clinton and Elizabeth Hurley, then says he’s against the U.S. Postal Service getting into predatory banking, then says he’d support a federal bank to issue low-interest loans but says it couldn’t be trusted, then endorses state banking, then warns against Bitcoin.

He may not have intended it this way, but it certainly does come off as a muddled message, leaving some people shaking their heads as to what real monetary reform looks like. For more on that, see my articles and those of Anthony Migchels, and for a clear presentation of state banking, see Ellen Brown and the Public Banking Institute.

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Lew RockwellFrom this January 25, 2014 New York Times hit piece against Rand Paul and Mises Institute associates, Lew Rockwell told a New York Times reporter who requested a tour of the Mises Institute campus that he’s “part of the regime“, yet Lew Rockwell himself is the Chairman of a government-sanctioned and government-regulated institution, the 501(c)(3) tax-exempt Ludwig von Mises Institute.

Despite the claim that tax money is better off in the hands of its donors, and the analogy given by Rockwell and other anarcho-capitalists that it is valid and even a moral duty for an individual to seek to pay as little taxes as possible, it doesn’t hold in the case of the Mises Institute, since it was created by Lew Rockwell and others voluntarily entering into an agreement with government, whereas individuals are being taxed on the basis of their very natural existence.

For a close examination of Lew Rockwell’s anti-state credentials, see my articles:

1) 10 questions for Lew Rockwell

2) Lew Rockwell entered into a voluntary agreement with the same government he regards as “far worse than the mafia.”

3) The Ludwig von Mises Institute hates government so much, they’re a government-sanctioned and regulated tax-exempt organization.

4) Austrian economics is big business: The Mises Institute’s $22 million war chest

5) Self-described anti-state LewRockwell.com regularly posting state media articles by Russia Today

6) Lew Rockwell promotes the government-granted privilege of concealed-carry more than the natural right of open carry

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Lew RockwellAs further evidence of the “say one thing, do another” mentality of some Austrian adherents, like Lew Rockwell, in claiming to be anti-state, yet voluntarily entering into an agreement with government, here we have Lew Rockwell’s self-described “anti-state” site regularly posting state media articles by Russia Today.

Amazingly, as of January 3, 2014, LRC has published 63 articles by the state broadcaster and publisher, Russia Today! — and with their permission. (Why bother seeking permission of an entity you regard to be illegitimate?)

Here was the latest one, on January 3, 2014: “US the Biggest Threat to World Peace in 2013

If the U.S. is the biggest threat to world peace in 2013, I ask again: why did he and other founders of the Mises Institute enter into a voluntary agreement with it?

For more on Lew Rockwell’s anti-state credibility problem, see my articles:

1) 10 questions for Lew Rockwell

2) Lew Rockwell promotes the government-granted privilege of concealed-carry more than the natural right of open carry

3) Lew Rockwell admits government-issued currency is money, despite making a career out of blasting government

4) Lew Rockwell.com’s latest pro-state article

5) Lew Rockwell entered into a voluntary agreement with the same government he regards as “far worse than the mafia”

6) The Ludwig von Mises Institute hates government so much, they’re a government-sanctioned and regulated tax-exempt organization

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